November 17, 2006

Exercise

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Posted by Bill the diabetesdoc at 00:04:00 | Permanent Link | Comments (119) |
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1 - OK I'll be the first to post in the new exercise island. I am in a research study that requires me to exercise daily so this is what I do. I do reformer pilates 2x weekly, lift weights 2x weekly, and I also ride an exercise bike daily for 20 - 30 minutes daily. I have 3 pins in my left knee and arthritis and have found the motion of riding the bike helps keep the circulation going and even helps with natural pain relief to some extent. I also try not to over exercise to keep my numbers down. It's all moderately done. So what is everyone else doing for their exercise? (Comment this)

2 - Good morning Geri,

I've run daily for over 61 months and lift weights. I try average seven hours per week running(sometimes I'll run up to then hours) then lift weights or do push ups when ever I can. My diabetes and CAD is under good control due to medications, eating a vegan diet and working out. (Comment this)

Written by: Jon Wallace at 2006/11/19 - 11:11:15
3 - Jon Wallace, Maybe when I'm not so fluffy my numbers won't go up so much. I prefer to do a harder weight lifting routine but my knee is also giving me alot of trouble. I have to find the point of helping but not hurting. I wish I could run like you. Good to hear from you. (Comment this)

4 - Geri,

I run about as fast as a receding glacier. Some of my friends mistake my running as crawling!

take care (Comment this)

Written by: Jon Wallace at 2006/11/19 - 19:06:27
5 - Hi everyone, a week ago I bought a mini cycle and have finally found a way to exercise my legs without losing my balance. I am able to increase my speed slowly and add resistance using it's little dial. The one problem is I usually lose track of the time and go beyond the 30 minutes my doctor advised. I also noticed I'm not as dizzy as I was before using this bike. I haven't walked into a wall or door and that's a big improvement. lol. My bg numbers always go up after exercise and this mini bike is no exception. It doesn't seem to matter if I exercise for 30 minutes or go longer, to as much as an hour (really lost track of time that day). Any suggestions to lower bg after exercise is welcome. I'm also trying to exercise my flabby arms and find that even the lightest hand weight is too heavy for me. My doctor suggests I do the exercises without weight for now. I am unable to keep my arms raised over my head for more than a few seconds so all the arm exercises are done below my neck. I was told by a good friend to add stretching to my workout and with her help I started that today. Any other ideas to help a dizzy old broad exercise would be greatly appreciated. It's great to have a place to share our exercise plans. (Comment this)

6 - Hi, I need to find a way to exercise this winter. I live in a small upstairs apartment and space is at a minimum. I do not want to alienate my downstairs neighbor. I also have degenerative joint disease in my lumbar area spine and have an artificial hip. No jogging, running, or pounding. In good weather I walk for 1/2 an hour each day. I tried a total gym and while I liked it, it is 8 feet long and weighs 70+ pounds. Which is too heavy to put away each time and the machine is difficult to fold up without injuring yourself. Pilates machines are also too long at 7 feet. I looked at treadmills but to get a reliable one costs $1,000-1,500. Exercise bikes cause problems with my back and hips since they are not made for short people. We have had heavy rain for the last three weeks and so I have only been able to get out to walk in the dark a few days. Do you have any suggestions for indoor exercise that I could do this winter? (Comment this)

7 - clk- Seattle, type 2 July 2004: metformin 1000mg x2; byetta 5mg dinner only, There are those mini bikes that Annie in NY is talking about in post 5. It is small and portable. You just put it in front of your chair and pedal away and it can go on the table and you can use your arms to pedal too. I don't know how much they are or what they are really called, I call them pedal machines. Also you can try resistence bands to work out the arms. They are easy to find and don't take up much space. Some claim that they actually will build up more muscle that using weights because if you do a controlled motion there is more resistence going up and down, or back and forth. Just a few options. (Comment this)

8 - clk- Seattle, type 2 July 2004: metformin 1000mg x2; byetta 5mg dinner only,
Geri's right about the mini bike being small and lightweight. Mine cost $80 but you can find cheaper models that are even smaller and lighter than the one I bought. Also available are mini steppers. They are small and lightweight too but you have to be able to stand to use them. I bought the bike because I have trouble standing and walking. I hope this information helps. Annie (Comment this)

Written by: Annie in New York, T2 since 2/03, 10 Byetta since 2/06,2000 mg metformin er at 2006/11/21 - 13:10:34 in reply to: 6
9 - I ride a recumbent exercise bike 30 minutes 5 days a week (need to be recumbent due to spinal defects). I also lift light free weights for 10-15 minutes as a cool-down from riding the exercise bike. I would like to find more time, but work/commuting limits my available weekday time. On the weekends I do some walking outdoors (avoiding walking on pavement) and play some golf and do yardwork.

Severe arthritis in knees and getting worse in hips limits extended walking for exercise and prohibits any running or treadmill exercise as well as walking on hard surfaces (streets, sidewalks, etc.). I am open to any other suggestions or creative ideas.

Thanks,
 (Comment this)

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10 - I just got notification of the upcoming annual meeting of DESA, and reproduce the info here:
PEAK PERFORMANCE 2007
DESA
DIABETES EXERCISE AND SPORTS ASSOCIATION NORTH AMERICAN CONFERENCE
WHERE: Colorado College & The US Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs, Colorado
WHEN: June 28- 30, 2007
WHO: Anyone interested in learning about the latest in diabetes treatment and technology, fine-tuning their diabetes management with exercise, exchanging views with fellow athletes at all levels of skill, and meeting new friends you never knew before.
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CHECK OUR WEBSITE:
WWW.DIABETES-EXERCISE.ORG
OR CALL 1-800-898-4322

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Written by: Bill the diabetesdoc at 2006/12/03 - 12:31:45
11 - clk-Seattle
I haven't heard, did you find some way to exercise? Of course you can always walk stairs but that is sooo boring. Then I remembered when my kids were young we put the bike w/ training wheels on blocks so they could ride but not go anywhere. I too would ride it once in a while - I am also short. You might want to try various stationary bikes as some of them will get small enough for us shorties, I've had two at home but the bike at rehab wouldn't go short enough for me to use. Just some more ideas and wondering how you are doing. I read while biking so the time goes quicker and watch TV or talk on the phone while walking - anything that gets me doing the exercise. (Comment this)

Written by: Becky IA at 2006/12/11 - 11:25:14
12 - geri in Co. 10 mcg byetta, Levemir 25U 2xdaily, metformin er 1000 mg 2x daily, glucotrol xl 2.5 mg 2x daily,

I have started exercising almost every day. 30 min. of cardio, weights 2x per week, yoga 1x per week. I am having problems keeping my BS up during exercise. Any suggestions? (Comment this)

Written by: Carol at 2006/12/17 - 23:11:20 in reply to: 1
13 - Carol, You might try eating a complex carb with a protein, something like 1/2 apple with peanut butter or a couple whole grain crackers with cheese. Or even 1/4 to 1/2 sandwich, 1/2 hour before exercising. Something very small. I also take glucose tabs with me but haven't had to use them yet. Also drink alot of water. Let me know if it helps or not and we can do some other brainstorming. (Comment this)

14 - I usually eat up to 25 grams of carbs just prior to my workouts. if I'm running longer than 90 minutes I eat during the run. This prevents me from dips in my glucose levels. (Comment this)

Written by: Jon Wallace at 2006/12/18 - 17:52:59
15 - Annie in New York, T2 since 2/03, 10 Byetta since 2/06,2000 mg metformin er,

Rising Sgrs. After Excercising..

It's a real balancing act until you figure it out and what's going on..

1. R U Testing Before Excercising? If you start out Above 120's-140's, your going to spike.
2. After X- when do you test? 1 hr, 2 hrs, 4 hrs? Normally Tsting 15-30 min after is used to see if oyur Too Low or Going low, but otherwise, I wait until 1 hr- 2hrs..

But, if your 90-130's? Your fine, but test in 1-2 hrs to see if your going too low.

3. If you start to feell Dizzy ( Sings of Going Hypo) while Excercising, then stop, drink 6 oz of Reg. Pop or 1/2 glas of OJ, Gatorade...etc..and the next time , drink 1 oz every 10-15 min while exercising..


FYI- over 50% of T2's are Seniors- and " Slightly" overweight and out of Shape- Ie: Weak Knees, etc. and you have to start out slowly- 15 min every day, 1st wk, an increase 5 min. each week there after. It is really Best to Consult a P.T. before starting on oyur own.- Wearing Knee Bandages also helps protect those Knees from Getting Sore or giving out, until those Muscles around that are get built up ( 2-3 mos )

How do I know? I went to PT before I started yrs ago and for the $75 it cost me, was well worth the information..

Also try adding Turbo Jam or Related type Excercises... & Exercise Bike-Can do in your own Home/ Privacy..and not be Embarrased or at risk going outside in Foul Weather..

Hope this helps some...

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Written by: Dennis at 2006/12/22 - 23:13:58 in reply to: 5
16 - Dennis, thanks for the advice. I always check my bg before exercising and I am usually 80-90. I always wait at least an hour after exercise before checking my blood again. I also test whenever I am dizzy and I haven't been under 80 in months so that isn't my problem. The first hour after exercise I am usually 150-160. The second hour I will start to go lower, somewhere between 130-140. By four hours I am back to normal - 80-90. My doctor said that it's not unusual for some T2's to see a rise in their bg while others go low. Since my 3 month numbers remain at 5.2, he said I shouldn't worry about the rise and to keep exercising. Since using the mini bike I have been able to exercise daily. I have had many different types of PT in the last few years and have never seen an improvement. The last time I went was this past summer. To think all I needed was a mini bike. Thanks. Annie (Comment this)

17 - I have been exeercising for several years now not for the sugar though. I also have Fibromyalgia and my Rhuemy told me it was the best thing I could do for my muscular pain. Now I do it for the the Fibro and the sugar.

I go 5 days a week, three days a week I walk the treadmill for 65 minutes averaging 3 miles each time then I do weight machines and free weights for another hour. The other two days I walk the treadmill for 65 minutes and do the bike for 15 minutes.

When I am in Florida for the winter I add an additional day at the gym and also do water aroebics 5 days a week. I was not able to drop any weight doing all this until recently when I started using Byetta. Doing exercise is my number one priority these days.

I just turned 60 and I feel great being able to do all of this. Doctor was ready to do a knee replacement on me 5 years ago until I lost 125 lbs now I need to drop at least 25 more and I will be very happy. One thing I have to make sure of is that I eat before working out. Had one bad day where I didn't and I did get dizzy after doing the 3 miles on the treadmill. Exercise makes me feel so much better especially since taking the Byetta which I started on Dec 8, 2006.

Have a great day.

Laureen (Comment this)

18 - DAN: I'm not sure what "jumping the lizard" means. Is that starting it for the first time or going up to 10mcg? Anyway exercise is, like you already know, is one of the most important things you can do for yourself. If you go back to the post where the persons numbers went into the 400's, a meal that was totally carbo loaded was eaten first. So I believe the 400 came more from her food and not her exercise. Yes our numbers go up during exercise due to the release of glucose that naturally happens to keep up with the energy demand that everyone, diabetic and not diabetic, puts on their body during exercise. But it is a temporary rise. I lift weights, do reformer pilates, and cardio and I eat a complex carb and a protein before starting. Something like a half apple with peanut butter, maybe a oat cracker with cheese. Something like that. The spit shouldn't change your exercise routine so if you are exercising now the spit shouldn't change things for you. It didn't for me. (Comment this)

19 - DAN: I'll echo Geri's comment. If I exercise light for 30 minutes or less, I experience a drop on BG. However, if I go aerobic more than 30 but less than 45 minutes, my BGs rise slightly. I experience a large BG drop when doing aerobic activity longer than 45 minutes around 60 - 75 minutes.

I've actually started exercising with BGs at 160 and measured my sugar throughout the exercise time up to 75 minutes. Here's the result:

Start exercise: BG @ 160
15 minutes: BG drop to 125
30 minutes: BG drop to 110
45 minutes: BG rise to 145
60 minutes: BG drop to 90
65 - 75 minutes: BG steady at 100 or so.

I've been on Byetta 19 months now. Started at 290 lbs, 44% body fat, 44 inch waist. I'm now at 220 lbs, 20% body fat, 32-34 inch waist. I am a male caucasion age 43. I jog for an hour per day 5 days/week and resistance train with iron/olympic weights the other 2 days for about 3 hours. I've noticed that if I'm responsible with my diet, Byetta causes no noticeable side-effects other than mild nausea and fatigue 1.5 hours after injection (irregular occurrence depending on my food intake).

TimSlim (Comment this)

Written by: TimSlim at 2007/01/03 - 11:08:59
20 - Geri, Tim -- Thanks for the input. I've not monitored during exercise and didn't know about the natural rise -- but that totally makes sense! I do see a decrease after exercise, but, from what I can remember, was 30 minutes or an hour after.

The complex carb tip makes sense, to me, too. I'm going to try and remember to do that!

I'm glad to know that I shouldn't expect much disruption of my exercise schedule when I go on the spit.

BTW, Tim, great job with the weight loss! That looks to be about an average of 4 pounds a month, or something like that -- and that seems safe to me. I have fears (and a terrible track record) of losing too much too fast, then rebounding and putting it all back on.

Thanks for the input! (Comment this)

Written by: Dan at 2007/01/04 - 22:04:36
21 - Lots of of good info on bs and working out. I workout 3 to 4 xs a week in a gym doing mixed cardio and strength, and dropped 1 workout a week and added a yoga class after not doing it for 10 years. Ten weeks now and the changes are fantastic. Noticable improvement in balance, reduction in leg pain, increase in treadmill indurance, decrease in generalized muscle pain(fibro type) and sleeping better, more relaxed , etc. Can be done in a small space, learned by video, or online/TV classes and supports recovery from all sorts of limitations. Most PT excersises I've encountered are really modified yoga postures. Check it out for a twist on strength training. Did I go on for ever? (Comment this)

22 - Jan-- I've got a co-worker at the office who's been begging me to go to a yoga class with her. I think I'm pretty flexible, but I'd imagine that one class would show me just how flexible I'm NOT!

Maybe I'll go with her next week. You've inspired me! (Comment this)

Written by: Dan at 2007/01/05 - 12:29:59
23 - JAN AND DAN: My personal trainer wants me to go to yoga class with her too. Just might have to try it now. Thanks to both of you for the kick in the ... (Comment this)

24 - Great, let me know how it goes. Yoga can be easy or very strenuous, enjoy! (Comment this)

25 - this is a very basic, beginner question, I see vague references to it in the above posts, but no real answer.

If you're looking at 'morning' excercise, do you eat first? Excercise first? What kind of window between eating and excercise?

I am talking 30-45 minutes on an elliptical.

I've never even had to THINK about this before, but now trying to time it with the Byetta, the food, etc. etc. I am second guessing myself. (Comment this)

Written by: jaeme at 2007/01/06 - 22:01:02
26 - Hi folks. I started on Byetta on November 30, 2006. Weighing on my doctors scales, for the first time since I began the Byetta, I've lost 13 lbs. and my bg is coming down. It seems to be stuck between 130 and 147, but I elected to stay on 5mc for another month. There were just no problems with side affests and I thought why not just do this for a little longer. Frankly, I was stunned speechless by the weight loss. I knew my intake of food has decreased dramatically, but I am finding it hard to have as balanced a diet as I should be on. The terrific weight loss encourages me to make some more improvement in my diet.

Thanks for sharing. This blog has been a Godsend for me!

Charli (Comment this)

Written by: Charli in Georgia metformin, 1,000mg and Byetta5 at 2007/01/06 - 22:48:13
27 - jaeme,

I run the following routine:
- get up , take oral meds & test BG
- ride recumbant exercise bike 30 min (watch TV news)
- re-test BG, take Byetta shot
- 10-15 min light free-weight exercise
- 5 min cool down
- breakfast of cereal

Just remember, you have to eat within 60 minutes of the Byetta shot, so if you do not feel like eating immediately after 45 minutes of exercising, then you should probably defer your shot until after the exercise.
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28 - jaeme,

My fasting Blood sugars are down to 110-135 since using Byetta. I inject and eat and usually go to exercise within a 1/2 after eating. I take my BS one hour after working out and they run anywhere from 98 to 100 which my Endro Doctor and nutritionist think is good. I do work out 2 hours three days a week and 1 hour the other three days. I do take one day off from it all.

I know know I will have to exercise for the rest of my life to keep my sugar in a good place and I am fine with that.

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Written by: Laureen at 2007/01/13 - 21:51:49 in reply to: 25
29 - Hey, just wanted to let you know I finally found a good winter exercise activity. The hard part for me was to find something that would not alienate my apartment neighbors nor aggrevate my bad joints and back. What I found was Chair Dancing http://www.chairdancing.com/ These videos are fun and a good alternative for those dark, rainy winter days when it is difficult to drag yourself out into the cold & wet to walk. I ordered 3 DVDs, 1 arobic, 1 tone and stretch, and 1 yoga. The yoga one did not work out so I will give that to a more flexible friend. But, the other two are working out great.

So if anyone else is looking for DVD exercise program that does not have you stomping on the neighor's ceiling try chair dancing. (Comment this)

30 - I am a new T2 and it is quite scary. I can see by your blogs that some of you were also a lilttle scared.

I have learned a lot just by reading the information on the blogs.

Thank you

patti (Comment this)

Written by: Patti at 2007/02/05 - 20:55:53
31 - Exercise and Diabetes.... lion or gazelle

Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up. It knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed. Every morning a lion wakes up. It knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it will starve to death. It doesn't matter whether you are a lion or a gazelle: when the sun comes up, you'd better be running. (the runners store, Austin, Texas)

[NOTE: This comment seems off-topic, and should have been posted elsewhere. I will let it stay, but in the future, if anyone wants to discuss this further, please post a brief comment here to tell folks that the followup will be elsewhere. Thanks!
Bill the diabetes doc.]

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Written by: Jon Wallace at 2007/02/07 - 22:17:35
32 - Am I the only one who has experienced huge rises in blood sugar post exercise once I eat? Example:
Before exercies - 110
Ate banana to keep numbers up
Cardio exercise for 1 hour and BS 80
Ate dinner (lo fat chilli and 3 carbs) and blood sugar one hour after eating is over 200!

The exercise lowers my blood sugar, but then once I eat anything, it swings way up!! I cannot find anything to explain what is happening and find it very discouraging. (Comment this)

Written by: Susan in Austin at 2007/02/14 - 11:19:04
33 - No, Susan, you aren't the only one. There was much discussion about this a while back. But some people were very frustrated by the apparent answer. This post from TimSlim explains best:

"I've found that intense aerobic exercise lasting longer than 30 minutes (certainly 45 min) will cause a rise in BG. The body interprets this as a need for blood glucose and the liver obligingly dumps it in. I've started walking for no more than 30 minutes twice a day. When I resistance train, I do it twice a week for 30 minutes at a time.

This isn't what exercise physiologists tell us, but it exactly corresponds to my BG meter readings. Additionally, try to exercise either before your shot, so that you don't exponentiate the effect of the Byetta, or exercise mid-day. Of course, this is only my suggestion of what seems to be working for me. (Comment this)

Written by: TimSlim T2(1997)Byetta(7/05) Glucophage 1000mg (2xday) at 2006/08/31 - 19:41:48"


Geri had the problem, too. She says:

"Exercise causes my bg to rise too for a short time after because the body releases glucose to keep up with the extra demand that strenous exercise requires. For me the only way to bring it down was to do moderate exercise so the demand wouldn't be so great. But when training for a triathlon that isn't possible. I work out with alot of people training for some triathlon so I know what they have to do. I don't think an A1C of 6.2 is so bad but it's relative since mine is 8.1. When your season is over try moderate exercise, resistence training, reformer pilates, stuff like that and see what your numbers are like. I would follow your endos advice because you don't want a low while exercising, I've had that happen which is why I don't take insulin first, I'm off it now anyway because of the spit and it is a fat building hormone."

It's all so complicated, and it seems counterintuitive to be told to exercise less, but that is what has seemed to work. Some people had terrible lows; others had highs. Since you exercise for an hour, I wonder if Geri and TimSlim have your answer. Note also how Tim says to exercise before injection, not after, or at a different time of day.



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Written by: Toneylee at 2007/02/14 - 12:11:36
34 - Susan in Austin,

I am at extremly insulin resistant, without my meds I go very high.

I also find that I will have wild swings in BS with more intense exercise.
I sometimes with drop low very fast, but most times I have to deal with highs.

If I do mild exercise and do not over do it I will get better results.

I think the more insulin resistant you are, the more you will experience the highs several hours after exercise.

I had been taking Actos because of this, but it gave me so much edema in my legs I could not tolerate it so I changed to Byetta.

Advandia is another one that is good for IR if you can take it.
It did the same thing to me as the Actos did with the edema.
I took each for about a year, first the Avandia then the Actos.
If you can take them they are good drugs.
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35 - Susan in Austin,
After exercising your body needs some carbs. If you deprive your body of good carbs from unrefined food it will just start making the blood glucose. 3 gr carb after exercising is probably not enough to prevent your body from producing blood glucose. Try eating somewhere between 15-30 gr carbs for the after exercise meal and see if this helps. Maybe then you body will be satisfied with the carbs from food and will not start producing extra blood glucose. My high readings usually are the result of too few carbs after exercising. It is a balancing game and everyone is different.
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36 - Question: Has anyone purchased and used the TV info-mercial excercise equipment called Legmagic www.buylegmagic.com? I am thinking about purchasing it (cost 150 +tax+shipping) but would like to know if any of you have used it and what you think about it. Does it help with your bg? I would use it on the days that the weather is not condusive to walking outdoors.

clk (Comment this)

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Written by: Steph and Bill Quick at 2007/05/04 - 01:54:06 in reply to: 36
38 - You guys all have some great ideas, and it's wonderful to hear about so many people with diabetes taking their daily exercise seriously. If any of you ever has a diabetes & exercise question you need answered, please feel free to ask me. I'm the author of "The Diabetic Athlete" (2001), "Diabetes-Free Kids" (2005), "The 7 Step Diabetes Fitness Plan" (2006), and the upcoming "50 Secrets of the Longest Living People with Diabetes" (Oct. 28, 2007). I started my own blog recently (http://blog.shericolberg.com) where I'm posting a lot of my more recent articles on exercise, fitness, and diabetes. Please check there to learn more, and I'd love to hear from you all via e-mail, too (sheri@shericolberg.com). Keep up the exercise, one and all! (Comment this)

Written by: Sheri Colberg, PhD at 2007/05/07 - 13:42:17
39 - Good morning Sheri


For up to three hours after I have a very taxing run, my blood sugar is elevated slightly after using byetta and eating. This morning after a difficult 45 minute run my blood sugar stayed in the 130's for almost three hours then dipped to 94. My endo thinks adrenaline is the reason for this. What do you think? Bye the way, I may be developing a tolerance to byetta. (Comment this)

Written by: Jon Wallace at 2007/05/13 - 16:54:32
40 - I solved my problem with manual equipment get a treadmill without a motor and they fold up like an ironing board real thin pull it out when you want to excersize and shove it under the bed or in the closet when your through. gravity is what drives it nothing more you go at your own speed and you can even get one that counts calories... also I got a glider... it is a machine that has two pedals that are suspened in a box looking configuration. you enter from the side slip your feet into the pedals and simply swing your legs from back to front I think tony little makes it I got mine at used equipment store for 40.00 you can also get either of them at fingerhut.com on credit. these are extreemly low impact...I have swelling in my knees and cannot kneel or as your condition dictates no pounding.. hope these suggestions help. (Comment this)

Written by: Judy Howard at 2007/05/23 - 11:56:52 in reply to: 6
41 - Sheri, Thanks for the names of your books. I will be looking for them. I am by no means an athlete, but I am beginning an exercise program and will look forward to your tips and suggestions. I am concerned tonite about dancing. I used to go regularly and havent gone in months because my meds were "off" and I wasn't feeling well. Now, I just started byetta 5mcg along with fortamet 2x and glimiperide 1x and I am a bit concerned about experiencing a low. I will try to pay attention to my body as I'm dancing. I certainly don't want it to affect my driving home (1/2 hour at 1am). Let me know what you think .. Thanks.. Judy (Comment this)

Written by: Judy at 2007/06/08 - 18:49:45 in reply to: 38
42 - Hi Bill the diabetesdoc, I'm really interested in the conference in Colorado of the Diabetes-Exercise group. There seems to be no way that I can attend, but I wonder if there are plans to record or publish proceedings? Well, do such groups do proceedings? Anyway, can someone report back to us? This is the first time I've looked at this thread and I'm thinking it might be inspirational! Thanks. (Comment this)

Written by: Pat from LI at 2007/06/09 - 08:27:15 in reply to: 10
43 - Hi Mark in Missouri; T-2 (2000), Byetta 10 (01/06), Metformin 1000mg (2x daily), quit Avandia & Amaryl; , I know you from the other discussions, but this is my first look at the exercise messages. Since you seem to have a similar work schedule, I'm reading your thoughts. I've become a bit discouraged with this thread because so many have time to go to the gym, etc. I work a 13-14 hour day with several hours commuting. I tried exercise at the gym at 10:15-11 pm, but I just can't do it. When I come home at night to an empty house, I have no umph. I've been walking 20 min each lunch, and fast walking the boardwalk (4.5 mi) three times a week. This really isn't sufficient, nor is it the right exercise. I understand the need for resistance training. I have had a stop-start relationship with Latin and ballroom dancing, but when I restarted after intense time writing a thesis, I broke my metatarsal. I've had a bad history with foot surgery and am fearful of damage. The logistics of exercise are difficult for me. Thanks for listening. (Comment this)

Written by: Pat from LI at 2007/06/09 - 08:39:44 in reply to: 27
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44 - Re the DESA meeting: I asked a colleague (and commenter here!), Sheri, who replied:

The DESA group's conferences are fairly small (usually 100-200 attendees), and I have never known them to do any type of taping of the sessions. The conferences really are a great way to learn more and interact with others, though, so even if they did have proceedings, that would only get you a small fraction of what you get from actually being at one. One idea to get more information is to contact the speakers directly who are giving a talk on a topic of interest. Oftentimes, speakers are willing to share their powerpoint presentations to interested parties (I know I often do). (Comment this)

Written by: Bill the diabetesdoc at 2007/06/09 - 11:04:17 in reply to: 42
45 - Rotator cuff injuries and diabetics: My orthopedist told me to stop working out with hand weights or even a weight vest because diabetics are more prone to rotator cuff problems. Anyone ever heard of this? (Comment this)

Written by: Pat from LI at 2007/06/09 - 16:57:32
46 - Sickness after swimming: For years I tried to swim, such as that is -- overhand, breast stroke, back stroke, side stroke -- stopping for the turns-- lasting about 20 - 30 min. When I got out of the pool, I was bent over with nausea. Now that I know of my diabetes, I am very deliberate with my swimming. I've never taken my bg after swimming because it is quite awkward. I also cannot find time to swim, but it is farandaway the best cardio and orthopedic-alignment exercise. Any idea about this near passing-out after effect? (Comment this)

Written by: Pat from LI at 2007/06/09 - 17:01:34
47 - Judy Howard,i also have the tony little gazzell machine and I have used it for 2 years. I have back problems,6 back operations and still have problems. the gazzell is non impact and easy for me to use. 30 to 45 minutes 3 times a week is what I do. (Comment this)

Written by: HELEN at 2007/06/16 - 02:28:17
48 - Diabetic Athlete by Sheri Dolberg is a really good book! It is thorough, addressing each form of exercise and a possible regimen for type 1 or 2 diabetic. If you have a bit of time and are interested in effects of various forms of exercise, this is great. The book seems to have been written 2000-2001, so Byetta isn't part of the scheme. Wish she'd write another book like this, addressing type 2's and including what we might expect using Byetta. (Comment this)

Written by: Pat from LI at 2007/06/16 - 08:56:52
49 - Carbs and exercise: I've been trying to read Sheri's book. Last night I did the Byetta shot at 6. 20 min. later, I ate turkey, 50 ish grams of carbs, then a "no sugar added bar." About 10 min. later I began my 4 mile walk. At about 2 miles, maybe 30 min. later, I got quite sick. Wasn't carrying glucometer, so I sat, took off my sweater, waited about 3 min. Started walking again and was fine. My reading coming in about 15 min. later was 116, a low for me. I'm trying to be more exact about carbs. Sheri would have the diabetic space carbs throughout the training, if necessary, I think. It seems that she is addressing type 1's mostly and people on insulin. Insulin is much steadier than regulating diet, I think. Any comments? (Comment this)

Written by: Pat from LI at 2007/06/17 - 09:13:28
50 - Weights: Does anyone carry weights when walking or running? (Comment this)

Written by: Pat from LI at 2007/06/27 - 08:41:10
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