Byetta 17: Discussion Forum for the week of April 2
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Donna it is always apleasure to see you well enough to post.Have fun at the picnic and you will do fine.Remember a little treat won'nt hurt.So Enjoy!!! (Comment this)
I want to start off by saying,
I haven't taken the Gilly since Friday...
This flu has been really bad..
A lot of phlem and stuff going to my stomach has really upset it a lot.
So I have been on nothing but insulin since Saturday Morning.
John you posted a comment to someone about rushing to the 10 if the 5 was working..
You made the comment that the whole purpose of the Byetta is to take LESS MEDS in time...
I agree with you on that 100%...
So I am upset with my Dr for putting me on the 10mcg..
I thought that I was doing pretty good on the 5mcg.
My body was doing well with that dosage.
My sugars were a little high at times (DAWN)... But that has always been a problem for me... Even with the insulin.
Now that I am on the 10mcg EVERYTHING taste SALTY now..
Even WATER. I get a really bitter taste in my mouth..
I am thinking about taking only ONE SHOT a day until my body can adjust to the 10mcg.
I don't get as sick to my stomach when I do the morning shot...
But the evening shot is really bad...
My question is this,
IF I do the one shot a day, Will my body eventually adjust to that enough to let me start doing the 2x's a day?
I really want this to work out for me...
But is seems like my bg was doing better with the 5mcg.
I started seeing higher numbers when I went to the 10.
On the good side, I have lost 12 pounds since Feb 27th..
Thanks For Listening Everyone!
Sharon
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My real name is SHARON... And I am from Texas...
When I started posting here I didn't know there was another one posting under that same name...
I am the Sharon with the husband that has horrible BG..
So I hope that I didn't run the other Sharon off..
I will go by SharonB.....
That way everyone will know who is who..
SharonB
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My Husband is doing much better now..
He was put on Lantus at bedtime..
His numbers are coming down gradually...
He is NOT on the Byetta though.
Me on the other hand has a nasty cold are sinus infection going on..
It has been 9 days now since all of this crud started.
That is why I decided to give the Gilly a break for a few days to see if I can get this thing under control..
Then I think I will just ease back into the Gilly by doing one shot a day and one shot of insulin...
I think it is just going to take time for me to adjust to the new dose...
Have A Very Good Day!
SharonB
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I had a wierd experience yesterday evening. I was out and exercising rather strenuously during the late afternoon -- working horses, cleaning barn. My bg went way up, much to my surprise. I checked it before dinner, thinking I must have gone low, and it was 167. I made dinner, and then took my shot, and ate right away. An hour later, I could tell I was going low, and when I checked it was 70. A drop of 100 points in an hour!
I've never had that reaction to exercise before, but I think I'll be checking the bg before injecting in the evenings from now on.
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(Comment this)Brenda J.--Don't feel that you have to stop the shots because of the welts. It is a common side effect for some of us, but finally goes away. Rub cortizone cream or ointment on the welt to stop the itching. Also, be sure to rotate the injection sites. I had a welt as big as a quarter because I was injecting near the same place all the time before I knew better. There is an injection routine listed at the beginning of one of the previous blogs which helps reduce the amount of Byetta that gets on the skin which might help. Counting to ten seconds(not five as recommended in the demonstration video from Amylin also can help). For me the welts only lasted a couple of weeks. Good luck. (Comment this)
You need to stop using the pen and contact the Byetta Hotline:
(800) 868-1190
Sharon, re: Salty Taste
I think you should take another shot at your doctor about switching to the 5-Pen.
Good to hear your husband is doing better...
John (Comment this)
Wow Pat, that is great first of all that you are in such perfect control that you have gone on Byetta only. Fantastic reward for all your hard work. Also YOU came out the major winner in that pizza showdown! Way to go Pat! GO GILLY! (Comment this)
Otherwise things are going well, my blood sugars are low and other side effects are minimal -- the nausea is vague and easily tolerable. I haven't had quite the degree of early satiety others have reported, which I really looked forward to, but my appetite is down -- I had to force myself to eat yesterday. No idea about weight loss, but I expect I'm losing.
Anyway, any advice on the skin thing would be appreciated. (Comment this)
with the 5 mcg and refused to let me move up to the 10 mcg.
He says that I don't need it. I have not lost much weight
(maybe a couple of pounds) in about 3 weeks on the 5 mcg
but my numbers are better. I am having no trouble tolerating
the injections.
Do I NEED to go the 10mcg to see better numbers or more
weight loss ? Has anyone remained on the 5 mcg for longer
than a few months ?
Thanks
Dave (Comment this)
Although the drug trials for Byetta didn't do 3 a days I don't see any problem so long as there's always a meal following each of the 3 shots and that if you'll miss a meal, that you skip the shot also.
Deb, re: Moving to 10-Pen
Several people here have been on the 5-pen and plan to stay there indefinitely..
"Do you need to move up to 10 to see better numbers?".. Probably yes but there are people here who've seen no improvement by moving to 10. You said your doctor didn't want you going to 10...Can you tell us why?
If your numbers are already good and you want to move to get additional weight loss then your doctor may not go for that.
John (Comment this)
I went to the meals and nutrition forum but don't see any "specific" meals to help nausea. Could someone PLZ let me know exactly what I can eat especially in the AM that will lessen this nausea and subsequent vomiting? It sounds like many of you are at home and not out in the workplace and able to accomodate your issues but when you have no other option, it would be great to have a few specific ideas of what I can grab/fix on the run.
Also... any ideas on a nausea free dinner to keep me sane at night would be so helpful. ThanX for any and all replies.
PS: I have lost approx 5 lbs this week but that is because I can't eat... so sick and of course water weight, too. I don't consider that a healthy way to lose weight though. And,,, as another side effect my arthritis is not nearly as bad this week as normal. Quite surprising. (Comment this)
If you are losing nearly a pound a week, then you certainly should not feel disappointed. If it's consistant then think about what that is in a year. I have not moved up to the to the 10, and I'am in my eighth month on the spit. I will not be moving up as long as I have satisfactory results. (Comment this)
Sorry....I addressed my comments to you as "Deb", not Dave.
John (Comment this)
My doctor thinks that upping the byetta dose for just
the potential weight loss is not the best thing to do.
Since he finds my numbers are near to the normal
non diabetic numbers, he does not see a reason to
move up to the bigger dose.
In truth, I want to move up because I think I will
lose weight faster. I have lost about a lb a week
but need to lose more than 40-50 lb to get to target weight. (Comment this)
I started Byetta yesterday this is day two. I feel nauseated so sip diet vernors (ginger ale)and have some ginger cookie things for those times I'm really feeling it. Althought I am not vomiting - this is very good :) I have a slight headache, tremendous mailais and diarrea. I ate very lightly yesterday because I don't want vomiting to be part of my adjustment. This morning I considered not injecting because I felt very nauseated but a couple of the little cookie things soothed my stomach over enough to inject/eat a little later. I feel about like I did yesterday except for an itchy area on my back I just can't reach.
I chose to start this week as it is spring break so I don't have to work. I am hoping I will have adjusted and figured enough about my needs to go back to work next week. I do not like to take time off.
A question about sleep medications... The slowed gastric emptying will affect absortion so about how long before bed time to I need to inject and still be able to absorb sleep meds? I go to bed early because of chronic fatigue.
Thanks in advance,
Alice
SE Michigan (Comment this)
Welcome to the blog... Glad you've joined us.
When you say you ate "very lightly"... can you be more specific? The reason I ask is because if you ate TOO lightly then you may've not eaten enough to prevent Nausea...course it's hard to tell because you're new to Byetta.. You'll want to see how the next couple of days go... some people get past the nasuea quickly and others take longer.
Vernors (best ginger ale around) should be really good for the stomach thing.
I'm presuming you eat fairly early if you go to bed early.? The Byetta half-life in your bloodstream is 2.4 hours and it's gone at 9-10 hrs... you should be ok if you have maybe 4 hrs between your shot and bedtime..
Please keep us posted on how it goes.
John (Comment this)
I have never felt so good lately... thanks Gilly!!! I have now been on the 5 for almost two months with the following results: weight loss of 18 pounds; after dinner bs levels in the low 120's to 110's; AC1 dropped from 7.4 to 7.2... still not great but going in the right direction; no more nausea, burping, and headaches. Although slightly lower, my morning bs levels are still around 170 to 190. I just can't seem to get these lower. I did notice that my appetite is starting to return... in fact there are times I am absolutely ravenous! I have one more week on the 5 before I start the 10 pen. Hopefully this will keep my numbers moving in the right direction as well as supress my appetite like before. Is it common for the 5 dose to "wear off" as quickly? I hope the same thing doesn't happen after I move up to the 10.
Thanks to all who make this blog possible... best reference on the web!
Luck to all,
Susie (Comment this)
I had a slight problem with my lunch meds and panicked this evening. I had lunch with my mom at a bingo and when I took my afternoon pills I somehow took my dinner 1000 mg metformin by mistake. Just before dinner I took my bs level and it was 71. I have never had a reading that low and was scared to death, so scared that I was afraid to take my shot. I even had a small glass of orange juice. Right after dinner my bs was 123. I was afraid if i took the shot I would go even lower.
I am guessing that my bs was ok at 71 and I panicked needlessly but this is only my 12th day taking the byetta and I am starting to consistently seeing numbers in the low 100's where before it was always very close to 200 if not over the 200 mark.
Could someone tell me if there is a range that it is recommended your bs be to inject the shot? For some reason I never thought about that before, which makes me feel a bit foolish. Also, would the orange juice I drank have counted as "eating" before the shot.
This site has been a constant help to me these past almost 2 weeks.
Thanks
Cindy (Comment this)
I was on the 5 pen for 26 days, I have been on the 10 pen for the last 4 days. I lost about 8 pounds on the 5 pen. I haven't had any side effects with the 10 except for total lack of an appetite. I haven't weighed myself yet so I don't know if I have lost any weight in the last few days. One thing that I have figured out, is if take my shot, eat, and stay active I feel great. If I take my shot, eat, and move to the couch, I end up cold and asleep in about a hour. I also found that I don't have much of an appetite but once I start its still a little hard to stop and than I feel stuffed almost to the point if not to the point of being uncomfortable. Good Luck! (Comment this)
Pam (Comment this)
New here. In fact my first blog. Hope I do this right. I started on byetta 5 about 5 mos ago. I had 2 mos. of sample, thanks to my dr. When I found out my ins. would not pay and the amt of the cost, I realized I am not going to be able to afford this. So I went off & back up to 1500 glucophage. I had lost 12# in the 2 mos, but all of it is back except for 1 little #, which is my fault, of course, thinking I am hungry. Well, I got a mo coupon from my dr. 3 weeks ago to start again. Hubby says we will find a way to take the $200 every month. My appetite is back down ( not quite as much, I think) I am not weighing until drs. on the 6th. But I feel better in my clothes. I wanted to let a couple of the ones know that the 1st time I was nauseaus for 1 1/2 mos. before it got better, but this time I have only had a slight bit a couple times. I had 2 stints put in 2 weeks ago & it could be because I have been eating a lot less fat. I had thought it was just the shot the 1st time, but I do think it must have been the food I was eating. I also find that if I start eating at night, I have trouble stopping. Any suggestions on why this would be?? thanks (Comment this)
Missy, I had been getting lows in the 60s 2 hours after dinner. The culprit is the Amaryl I'm still taking; I'm gradually cutting it back (down to 1 mg now) but the price of that is higher fbg readings.
It's a balancing act. I'm hoping that as the Byetta helps me lose weight, I can drop the Amaryl completely and still have good morning numbers.
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Keep your fingers crossed for me everyone! (Comment this)
You say you're calling your doctor today... You might mention this that during the Byetta drug trials hypos occurred in several people that were taking a sulfonylurea class drug (like Amaryl) along with the Byetta. The effect of the Amaryl was enhanced by combining it with Byetta.
Amalyn, the maker of Byetta, suggests backing off on the sulfonylurea strength whenthe patient begins taking Byetta.
John (Comment this)
You can eat anytime between 1 minute after you take the shot to 60 minutes but generally speaking, the longer you wait (up to an hour) the more full you will feel.
If one is prone to nausea then people here have found waiting about 15 minutes works best.
John (Comment this)
Eating at night has always been my downfall, too. I don't know why this happens, but before Byetta I always felt hungry in the evening, and was constantly munching on something between dinner and bedtime. Perhaps it has something to do with our impaired insulin response to food. Byetta has helped me enormously with this - I don't eat as much at meals, and I don't feel hungry between meals. Good luck!
Dave in MD (dg_mooreATcomcastDOTnet) (Comment this)
I was taking Actos 45's and found that I had significant water retention in my legs and feet..
Stopped the Actos and it took about 3 weeks to drain.
John (Comment this)
Diana (Comment this)
Anthony, 6.5 hours is pretty close together, though it is within the range that Amylin says is acceptable. Everyone's body is different, though.
Diana, the literature says that you should discard the pen 30 days after starting it. Some people have noticed that the spit becomes less effective as they approach the 30th day.
Trish, I'm one of those who suffers from ongoing queasiness. I usually eat 15 to 20 minutes after the shot. I check my bg before injecting, and if it's high, I eat something right away in order to fend off a low triggered by the glucose already in my bloodstream. Going low (into the 60s) will make me very nauseated.
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